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<channel><title><![CDATA[&nbsp;Christianbody.net - Out of Church Christians]]></title><link><![CDATA[https://www.christianbody.net/out-of-church-christians]]></link><description><![CDATA[Out of Church Christians]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 13:59:26 -0600</pubDate><generator>Weebly</generator><item><title><![CDATA[IN-CHURCH, OUT-of-CHURCH, FUTURE CHURCH by Andrew Strom]]></title><link><![CDATA[https://www.christianbody.net/out-of-church-christians/in-church-out-of-church-future-church-by-andrew-strom]]></link><comments><![CDATA[https://www.christianbody.net/out-of-church-christians/in-church-out-of-church-future-church-by-andrew-strom#comments]]></comments><pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:21:48 GMT</pubDate><category><![CDATA[Uncategorized]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.christianbody.net/out-of-church-christians/in-church-out-of-church-future-church-by-andrew-strom</guid><description><![CDATA[This is a new comment by Andrew Strom (who wrote the Out of Church Christians article) and I really like the way he approached the subject.&nbsp; I agree that "home church" or "out of church" in itself isn't the answer to the problem, and until God's saints begin to see a larger vision for "HIS CHURCH," we are doomed to continue our trek in the wilderness (IMO.)&nbsp; Blessings,&nbsp; GroverI have met and fellowshipped with many wonderful Christian people over the years - from all kinds of backg [...] ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="paragraph" style="text-align:justify;"><font color="#3366ff">This is a new comment by Andrew Strom (who wrote the Out of Church Christians article) and I really like the way he approached the subject.&nbsp; I agree that "home church" or "out of church" in itself isn't the answer to the problem, and until God's saints begin to see a larger vision for "HIS CHURCH," we are doomed to continue our trek in the wilderness (IMO.)&nbsp; Blessings,&nbsp; Grover</font><br /><br /><font>I have met and fellowshipped with many wonderful Christian people over the years - from all kinds of backgrounds. But I just need to comment on this "In-church/ Out-of-church" thing - because it keeps cropping up.</font></div>  <div>  <!--BLOG_SUMMARY_END--></div>  <div>  <!--BLOG_SUMMARY_END--></div>  <div class="paragraph" style="text-align:left;"><font>Let me be clear about this. I meet wonderful "In-church" people all<br />the time that I absolutely love - and I meet lovely "Out-of-church"<br />people too that I absolutely love. One of the biggest problems is<br />that often these two groups do not understand each other at all. <br />And neither do they necessarily see the need for a "future church" <br />that is beyond anything that any of us are seeing - a church that <br />is literally just like the Book of Acts. That is supposed to be our <br />goal - but too often we are satisfied basically where we are.<br /><br />CHALLENGES FOR the "IN-CHURCH"<br /><br />Many of the Christians who are totally "in" the church system truly <br />see the need for "change". They are not wanting to sit still. They <br />see there has been a great "decline" in Christianity away from the<br />old paths - and they are praying that God will move to restore and <br />purify His Bride. I have met many godly, warm-hearted people like <br />this who care passionately about God's kingdom and His true <br />gospel. I usually get on very well with such ones because we <br />share a common desire to see things "righted" - especially the<br />gospel message that has become so diluted and lost.<br /><br /></font><font>I guess the biggest challenge that I see in these settings is that<br />I believe God is about to move "outside the box" in such a drastic<br />way that if we allow ourselves to be too attached to the current<br />"system" or "way of church" - then we can easily get left behind.<br />To get us back to true "Book of Acts" Christianity will take such<br />a leap - and such change - that I wonder if we truly have it in us<br />to go with Him where He wants to go. How "loosely" do we hold <br />all these things - our buildings, our "meeting formats", our labels,<br />titles and ways of doing things? When these things are shaken<br />or challenged, it is sometimes surprising to discover what a hold <br />they have on us - even if we think they don't. This is the biggest <br />challenge that the "system"-type people face, I believe.<br /><br />But our love of the true gospel and true "Bible" Christianity will<br />take us a long way.<br /><br />CHALLENGES FOR the "OUT-Of-CHURCH"<br /><br /></font><font>I have moved amongst many 'House-church' and "Out-of-church"<br />type Christians (which are not the same thing) over the years. In<br />fact I have been part of these circles myself at times. One of the<br />biggest problems I have seen is that some of us really thought<br />we had the major "answer" to the church's problems. Those of us<br />in the 'House church' movement would think, "If only the church<br />would get out of buildings and into houses and become more<br />'relational'&nbsp; - most of our problems would be solved!" We truly<br />thought that simply by "changing boxes" we could get back the<br />Book of Acts church! What we ended up with, of course, was<br />simply the same people in a different "shell" - slightly more<br />'relational' - but hardly anything like the power and purity of the <br />early Christians. We had changed the outward "form" but the&nbsp; <br />POWER of Jesus Christ was still mostly lacking.<br /><br />I can remember having arguments over "plurality of eldership", the <br />precise "correct" way of taking the Lord's Supper, and all kinds of<br />things. None of it seemed to make the slightest bit of difference. <br />That is because the "outward" things and the 'form' of things <br />are all "secondary". This is not where the power is. But it took <br />such a long time to learn this lesson.<br /><br /></font><font>The "Out-of-church" people are even more radical. They often<br />fellowship with almost no-one - and many of them will tell you that<br />the organized church is the "whore of babylon", etc. A lot of them<br />are lovely people with a real heart for people and for TRUTH. But<br />some can be very judgmental and harsh. They will often "write off"<br />church people as being totally bound by "religion". But I found<br />many of us in that circle had our own "anti-religion" religion going<br />on! We despised having "leaders" or "organized" things of any<br />kind. We said we believed in the "5 fold" ministries but we couldn't<br />stand to have any actual "leaders" - even godly ones. And we<br />were secretly filled with PRIDE - because we could see everything<br />that was wrong with the "system". Man - did I have a "humbling"<br />coming when I got into this mindset! I was so "religiously" anti-<br />religious. I was so filled with arrogance and looked down my nose<br />at so many "system" people! I "judged" them just because they<br />went to a "building" on Sunday! God forgive me.<br /><br /></font><font>Of course, none of this is the answer either. I had to repent. I had <br />to RENOUNCE very deeply this harsh "anti-religion" religion that<br />made me so proud and arrogant towards people. I found that many <br />of them loved Jesus just as much as I did. And many of them <br />prayed more and were kinder, more loving and more godly than <br />I'd ever been. I had been kidding myself. When it boiled right down,<br />we "out-of-church" types were no closer to the Book of Acts than <br />many of the "system" people that we judged so harshly. We just <br />knew more "stuff" (supposedly). But clearly it wasn't the stuff that mattered.<br /><br />It was only when I deeply repented and RENOUNCED this whole<br />prideful mindset that God gradually began to show me what was<br />really important. And it was not the "outward" stuff - though of <br />course there is some importance to structure, etc.<br /><br />Each of these things (below) I believe will be a crucial part of the<br />FUTURE CHURCH that God wants to bring about. You could <br />literally write a book about each one - they are so important.<br />It was these very things that meant the early church SHONE <br />FORTH the GLORY OF JESUS every day. Here they are-<br /><br /></font><font>We must have-<br />(1) An APOSTOLIC gospel being preached with Apostolic-type<br />anointing and authority. (Whenever this has happened down<br />through history there has been real Revival). -SO CRUCIAL.<br />(2) The powerful moving of the HOLY SPIRIT - filling people, healing<br />people, convicting people, transforming people. <br />(3) REAL LOVE and an emphasis on ministering to the POOR. <br />(-Just like the early church).<br />(3) REAL DISCIPLES who actually "forsake all" to follow Jesus.<br />(4) REAL PRAYER - in the Holy Spirit. -And lots of it!!<br />(5) THE WHOLE BODY MINISTERING - Starting with the "5-fold"<br />ministries - whose goal is to release the whole body into ministry.<br />(6) MIRACLES and HEALINGS. -These are a must!<br /><br />Of course, we could go on and on. But let me just conclude by <br />saying this:-<br /><br /></font><font>It doesn't matter if we are "In-church", Out-of-church, Over-churched<br />or under-churched. If we don't have the above things (which the<br />early church had in abundance) then we really don't have ANYTHING. <br />It doesn't matter what we "know" or whether we meet in houses,<br />barns, on the streets or in sun-porches. If we don't have these<br />crucial things that the early church majored on, then we really <br />have NOTHING that matters.<br /><br />So I don't really care if you are "out" churched, "over" churched,<br />"thru" churched or "half" churched. We need to pursue and<br />pursue until we GET REAL CHRISTIANITY BACK!! And none of <br />us have got it - so we had all better repent of our pride and start <br />seeking that which is lost! A glorious Bride beckons. What price<br />are we willing to pay to see her glory restored?<br /><br /></font>God bless you all.<br /><br />Andrew Strom.<br /></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Out of Church Christians]]></title><link><![CDATA[https://www.christianbody.net/out-of-church-christians/first-post]]></link><comments><![CDATA[https://www.christianbody.net/out-of-church-christians/first-post#comments]]></comments><pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 01:02:42 GMT</pubDate><category><![CDATA[Uncategorized]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.christianbody.net/out-of-church-christians/first-post</guid><description><![CDATA[I started to write an article and include testimonies from some of the "out of church Christians" that I know, but then I remembered that Andrew Strom compiled an ebook in 2003, which included 30-40 pages of email testimonies along with some of Andrew's commentary.&nbsp;&nbsp; I felt that it was important for believers to understand some of the issues that not only divide the church, but render it powerless and irrelevant (according to some secular polls. &nbsp;Click on the link shown below to d [...] ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="paragraph" style="text-align:justify;"><font color="#6666cc"><font color="#e1e1ed">I started to write an article and include testimonies from some of the "out of church Christians" that I know, but then I remembered that Andrew Strom compiled an ebook in 2003, which included 30-40 pages of email testimonies along with some of Andrew's commentary.&nbsp;&nbsp; I felt that it was important for believers to understand some of the issues that not only divide the church, but render it powerless and irrelevant (according to some secular polls. &nbsp;Click on the link shown below to download the e-book.<br />Blessings to all,&nbsp; Grover</font></font></div>  <div><div style="margin: 10px 0 0 -10px"> <a href="https://www.christianbody.net/uploads/2/5/3/3/2533490/out_of_church_christians.pdf"><img src="http://www.weebly.com/weebly/images/file_icons/pdf.png" width="36" height="36" style="float: left; position: relative; left: 0px; top: 0px; margin: 0 15px 15px 0; border: 0;" /></a><div style="float: left; text-align: left; position: relative;"><table style="font-size: 12px; font-family: tahoma; line-height: .9;"><tr><td colspan="2"><b> out_of_church_christians.pdf</b></td></tr><tr style="display: none;"><td>File Size:  </td><td>349 kb</td></tr><tr style="display: none;"><td>File Type:  </td><td> pdf</td></tr></table><a href="https://www.christianbody.net/uploads/2/5/3/3/2533490/out_of_church_christians.pdf" style="font-weight: bold;">Download File</a></div> </div>  <hr style="clear: both; width: 100%; visibility: hidden"></hr></div>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>